Forest Nothing unique utopia 3.0

by Gundrik and HenkDeSuperNerd

Forest Nothing, with a catch: All the civs lose the ability to create their Unique Units from their castles (during the castle age only), and they lose their elite versions. In exchange, all of them are free to be created by anyone out of the the 4 different types of convertable workshops that can be build from the outpost. also no relics spawn, but dead king drop a relic that gives as much gold as 4 normal ones Get the bonuses you have always dreamed off on the UUs, go nuts (more detailed info in the information section)

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a unique utopia version of henk's forest nothing: https://aoe2map.net/map/772675d9-4793-4d84-bd92-f33f2c9bc8ba based on unique utopia 3.0: https://aoe2map.net/map/fd15450c-a267-493e-ac13-84d994371596 # Recommended settings: -FFA/ Diplo Regicide with Last man standing (for the relic/wonder victory). map size 6 TOPS for 8 players, 4 and lower if you want the game to go faster. fast speed. KotH should work just fine, but the nature of the map means that pushing someone off the middle easily with OP units is very possible # =====QUICK WORKSHOP GUIDE FOR PLAYERS===== -the workshops are 'trainable' from any outpost for 800 stone each, except the food/infantry (1000 stone instead) because of excess of units in that one -they will all have the same icon, HOWEVER YOU WILL GET A NAME OF THE TYPE OF UNIT THEY CREATE IF YOU HOVER THE ICON - WOOD (named 'archer') has foot archers (including gunpowder) - FOOD (named 'long-swordsman') has infantry - STONE (named 'cavalry archer') has cav archers (including gunpowder) and other units that don't fit other criteria (organ gun, ballista ele) - GOLD (named 'knight') has melee cavalry. -LEAVE AT LEAST A MARKET WORTH OF SPACE ON EACH SIDE OF THE OUTPOST UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO BUG INTO OTHER BUILDINGS -once trained, the workshop will instantly appear on whatever side it feels like, already build and ready to use or convert -they work EXTREMELY FAST -NO REFUNDS # Banned civs?: nah # The Workshops: Every of the 31 Unique units (UUs from now on) in the game in their Elite form has been divided between 4 diferent workshops: the distribution of UUs has been explained in the quick explanation. they are indestructible and convertable all workshops cost 800 stone except infantry, that has almost double the selection of units of the others and therefore costs 1000 stone to make up for it. HOWEVER workshops work at 6 times the rate of a castle to make up for it: they are not affected by conscription, but they work faster regardless (Unique techs may or may not apply, more on that later) # RELICS AND KINGS there are no relics in the map, but the king spawn one upon death that give 4 times the gold of a normal relic. this, plus the fact that you can convert workshops, promotes killing other players # Unintended features/bugs -not being able to create UUs during castle age was not intended: it's the price of setting training points outside the castle -I think I broke fetorias in this map due to having to use the trickle workshops: I has to set the building trickle variables to 0 # [ ====================================] # [ DoEs [X] UnIt GeT AFfEcTeD By BoNuS [Y] ????? ] # [ ====================================] Look, I cannot be assed to have a full list, but by testing I can give you a few rules of thumb on if your idea works or not: 1: IF A BONUS AFFECTS A UNIQUE UNIT AND A NORMAL UNIT IN THE ORIGINAL CIV WITHOUT EXPLICITLY MENTIONING THE TWO (says something like 'infantry' or 'foot archers'), THEN IT WORKS ON OTHER UUs OF THAT CLASS for example, briton Chu-co-nus get extra range, Goth UU infantry is cheaper, etc 2: IF A BONUS MENTIONS ONLY AN ARMOR CLASS/GENERAL CLASIFICATION (says something like 'infantry' or 'foot archers'), THEN IT MOST LIKELY WORKS ON OTHER UUs OF THAT CLASS For example, Hun discount on CA's applies on UU CA's, same for the Turk's U. Tech 3: IF A BONUS IS PROVEN TO LEAVE OUT OTHER UNITS THAT FIT AMBIGUOUS WORDING/ARMOR CLASS (says something like 'infantry' or 'foot archers') THEN IT MOST LIKELY DOESN'T WORK ON OTHER UU Obsidian arrows leave out plumed archers despite the wording. other UUs are not affected by it either 4: 'SIEGE/SIEGE UNITS' BONUSES ARE NOT RELIABLE ON WORDING, EXPECT THEM NOT TO WORK ON UUs Ballista elephants are not affected by celt bonuses for example All I will say is: expect strong UUs out of not-so-flashy civs/bonuses. sometimes you just need some extra blacksmith upgrades or a bit of HD to turn something normal into a monster Special thanks to Shulker, Trirem, Algernonr and many more for answering my questions on map creation chat in T90's discord. Also to all the map testers out there, as balancing this things without them would be extremely difficultit